Village Board Debates Electric Signs, Swears in New Police Officer

Also at the meeting, Fuller's Car Wash was granted a special use permit to build near Lincoln-Way Central.

A zoning variance request by the newly-opened to install an electronic message center sign stirred a debate among village trustees at the about the viability of the current sign ordinance. 

explained that due to the medical facility's location in a commercially-zone area, an electronic message center sign has the potential to negatively impact the character of the U.S. Route 30 commercial district.

Amy Stevens, chief operating officer for Provena, appealed the denial. Standing before the board, she said. "The New Lenox Healing Arts Pavilion is the new home to a wide variety of Provena Saint Joseph medical Center services aimed at improving the wellness of our community while also providing urgent care and ongoing clinical support to those suffering injury and illness."

Highlighting the fact that Provena has demonstrated an investment in the overall health and welfare of the community, she explained that the sign is necessary to draw attention to the unique nature of the facility, she said. It is not a typical doctor's office building. Rather, it is intended to provide a holistic approach, including overall fitness as it collaborates with the time constraints of women today.    

"A static, text-only sign cannot convey the variety and complexity of services that will be offered on a routine basis (at the center), or the multitude of rotating classes," according to Stevens. 

Having reviewed the request before the board meeting, broached the question of whether or not the existing sign ordinance was up-to-date with current trends.

Board members agreed that a review of the ordinance was a worthwhile endeavor. Mayor Tim Baldermann added that he favored the style of Provena's proposal and would like to see that design populate the business district along U.S. Route 30.

The board agreed to review the ordinance and invited Stevens to attend the Sept. 15 review session. 

Fuller's Car Wash gets special use permit to build on plot

Plans by the incoming easily gathered permission for a special use permit necessary to build a freestanding car wash in a general business district. The car wash facility is expected to enhance the area around Lincolnway Drive and U.S. Route 30. The architecturally appealing design along with the donation of land to accommodate an sidewalk installation project on U.S. Route 30 reined in support from the trustees and village staff.

New Lenox police officer sworn in

The newest member of the , Tim Perry, 25, was sworn in by Baldermann. Perry, who previously served as a police officer at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, will continue his career in New Lenox. 

Lincoln-Way West student nets support for Girl Scout project

Deidre Dalton, a 15-year-old sophomore at told the board that she was working on a project to gain the Gold Award for , the highest award in Girl Scouting. 

Dalton added, "no one in New Lenox has ever earned it."

The purpose of her project, entitled "Find Your Child's Passion," is to encourage children and their parents to get more involved in available New Lenox activities.

"I felt that if a child can find a passion in and organization, they will become a better teen and adult."

Dalton, whose advisor is Nick DiSandro, Board President and member of the , has organized a free outreach event from 10 a.m.-1 p.m. Sept. 15 at Liberty Junior High School.

She asked and received the board's support.

Larry Paveza August 28, 2012 at 11:52 AM
Too bad you wouldn't review the sign ordinance when the VFW asked for a sign TIM. Another "I support the Vets" claim by the Village Board and Tim!
Pam August 28, 2012 at 12:35 PM
Great, just what we need - more light pollution along 30. The electronic signs in Joliet along 80 are hideously ugly. Sure am pleased to see we might get them here too! (Not!) Also, in what world does a CAR WASH "enhance" anything?? "Architecturally appealing design"??? Give me a break.
Phil Zaczek August 28, 2012 at 01:33 PM
The additional sidewalk in front of Fullers near the high school will increase safety for high school students and I welcome the addition of Fuller Car Wash in New Lenox. The architecture of the new Provena building has added a lot of character to the Rte 30 corridor and is quite impressive. A sign might diminish the overall appeal of the building and the corridor because if they get one, everyone will want one and that would greatly diminish the ever improving landscape of the corridor. Now is we could just get the strip mall where I often frequent the Ace Hardware and Paisano's from its current truly embarassing facade, the entire area would be greatly improved.
Ned B. Williams August 28, 2012 at 01:36 PM
Absolutely NO to the hideous electronic LED signs. Way too distracting to motorists and other businesses in the area. We appreciate "the investment" and I'm very sure they will recoup their "investment", but Rt 30 looks crappy enough without another eyesore. Does Frankfort allow these monstrosities? Mokena? Naperville? Sorry to hear that they can't get the message out with traditional signage. Once you allow one of these eyesores, you will have legal challenges from all the other businesses that want to follow suit. No Way.
Cheri Franzen August 28, 2012 at 01:57 PM
I moved in 5 years ago and saw the sign for Fuller's Car wash and it said "coming soon". Then it was gone and so were my hopes. I look forward to getting my car washed at Fullers. Cheri Franzen
lala August 28, 2012 at 03:34 PM
Why don't you village officials focus more on getting the Rt. 30 project completed???
Barb August 28, 2012 at 03:35 PM
Congratulations to Deidre Dalton on her Girl Scout Gold Award. However to set the record straight, she is not the first New Lenox Girl Scout to earn this award. My daughter and another member of our troop (then 287) earned their award in 2000. Two sisters earned their awards in 1996 and 1998. There was at least one other woman before them. These women worked very hard to earn this award and should be given credit for their achievement.
Pam August 28, 2012 at 11:48 PM
Phil, I'm guessing you don't live in the neighborhood across the street from this alleged architecturally appealing design, nor anywhere near where the chemicals from the cars will drain. A sidewalk? Big deal. The town could have put in a sidewalk a long time ago if they cared about the kids' safety.
Cheryl Cagle August 29, 2012 at 03:46 AM
The village is worried about an electric sign negatively impacting the Route 30 commercial district?? That's a joke! How about bringing in more stellar businesses like Goodwill, Aldi, and Cash For Gold. That run down House of Hughes and Pit Stop really do alot to enhance that area too. Let's not forget the vacant and overgrown TJ Pub. There's a commercial district enhancer if I ever saw one!
Will County Resident August 29, 2012 at 05:58 AM
More light pollution? The only light pollution I can even think of on route 30 is that gold store with the spinning lights on the windows. Aside from that, route 30 of New Lenox is home to such wonderful locations like the abandoned TJ's, the House of Hughes, Pit Stop, and don't forget the burned down LA Cafe. If you look close, you can see the empty Movie Gallery and the empty Fiala's lot as well, as well as a reminder that the Eagle is now a pool store. But yes, "light pollution" is the problem that faces route 30. It's not anti business practices put in place by over-controlling citizens, it's definitely all that light pollution.
Will County Resident August 29, 2012 at 06:48 AM
Who are these motorists that can't drive if there are signs in the area? I've yet to meet them. Do they just crash everytime they enter Tinley Park or Orland? http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3092/screenshotczl.png As you can see in that photograph, Mokena clearly allows an LED sign in its business area for that bank. New Lenox already allows various signs as long as they tell you the temperature, which is probably the stupidest loophole in the world. Are we having crashes daily because someone checked the temperature at the bank on 30? I hope every business that wants a sign can get a sign. Unless of course you would rather their profits just dwindle and they have to close down. That would be a nice alternative, then you definitely won't have any eyesores.
Ty Wagner August 29, 2012 at 01:54 PM
@concerned So, by your logic, adding flashing colorful signage will save your mediocre business? You also state how run-down that stretch of road is, so adding seizure-inducing billboards will somehow beautify it? You compare time & temp displays to dynamic signs that change several lines of text? If you want to see how ugly these signs can be, look at the atrocity that O'Goreman cabinets put on Laraway- and that is only a small one- wait until you see the larger versions. Barf. I'm thinking 'concerned' is actually concerned only about his sign-making biz.
Ty Wagner August 30, 2012 at 12:45 AM
Phil- Lay off the Cool-Aid. Fullers is a rip-off. Get a hose and bucket- quit being such a lazy putz. Strip mall used to be a center of NL. Bruns Sales was there. Haircuts, ice cream and grocery. Now it's a seedy bar and an over-priced Ace Hardware.
Will County Resident August 30, 2012 at 04:30 AM
I don't have a sign making business. I'm just concerned that control freaks like yourselves are going to get their way in telling what other people can do with their own property.
Ty Wagner August 30, 2012 at 08:39 PM
concerned- I notice how you don't debate so well- just say I'm a control freak. I see you feel that propert owners should have absolute CONTROL over their domicile. I'm for relinquishing some of that control so that my neighbor doesn't erect billboards on his front lawn or open a rifle range in his back yard. Those of us that have considerable investments in out homes and businesses would like to see a more orderly approach to the appearance of our neighborhoods. History is replete with conflicts due to 'some' individuals inability to posses common sense and behave in a civilized fashion. Perhaps you'd like to stop by my hamburger stand that offers dog grooming? Come visit my bar/daycare facility? Maybe stop in to my pig farm/hospital? You can't allow the type of freedoms you encourage due to the stupidity factor.
Will County Resident August 30, 2012 at 11:45 PM
Ty Wagner - I notice you want full control over the aspects of other people's property in commercial areas. It's time to enter the 21st century. People have signs. These signs have lights on them. It's not your business, you don't have the right to tell them what they do with it. Your neighbor isn't going to get billboards in his front lawn. Your neighbor doesn't live in a commercial zone. The sign ordinance debate affects the commercial zone. You keep mentioning the word neighborhood, but you fail to understand that route 30 in the commercial areas is not your neighborhood. It is a business area.
Ty Wagner August 31, 2012 at 06:04 AM
Concerned- So I'm supposed to take from your well constructed argument that you personally like the flashing LED signs and find them attractive? Do you even understand technology? The price will drop on these signs to the point where they are ubiquitous. Every house for sale, every dry cleaner, every liquor store, every hamburger joint will have some sign that changes text- not "just has a light". Complete lunch and dinner menus will update every 30 seconds. Full-motion video will be added showing the wonderful sale items at Ace Hardware. RT 30 will become a multi-media interactive adventure. Now, imagine yourself here in the ' 21st Century ' where drivers are bombarded with stimuli vying for their already limited attention. Do you understand that the signs are actually changing before your eyes and not merely constructed utilizing lights? These signs are not just switching between Time and Temp, as per your illustrative example. I think if you Google LED sign debate, you can read-up on the 84 Million hits that clearly show the concern other communities have. Read up on some of the real effects of light pollution: http://docs.darksky.org/Docs/ida_wildlife_brochure.pdf Once the cat is out of the bag, it's real tough to put it back in.
Will County Resident September 01, 2012 at 07:03 AM
I have been in areas that allow signs, and that really hasn't been the case. Again, this is only for commercial areas, so no houses for sale are going to be part of this if they are in a residential area. The other issue of flashing lights or contents of the screen can be controlled by the village specifically deciding which kind of electronic signs are allowed, and what rate they can refresh, along with how bright they can shine, and especially what times they can be on. We can still have rules regarding the signs just like we have rules regarding liquor licenses. Businesses would have to abide by these rules to keep their "sign license", and we could have signs while the stores are open, and then have them turned off when the business closes, just like we have rules mandating that sports stadiums turn off their extremely bright lights before a certain time of night.


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