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Illinois Politicos: Paul Ryan VP Selection Could Energize Both Parties

Patch surveyed local Democrats and Republicans about the impact of Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan's selection as Mitt Romney's GOP running mate.

Illinois Democrats and Republicans both believe the will energize their party's voters in the 2012 presidential election.

That's the general feeling gathered from the Land of Lincoln survey issued by Patch in the Chicago area. Ninety-three Republicans and 89 Democrats were surveyed, though only 14 and nine replied, respectively, by the time of publication. 

About 77 percent of Republicans who responded said they believe the Ryan selection will galvanize Illinois Republicans, while 87 percent of Democratic respondents said the choice will bring together their voters against Ryan. 

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Republicans who replied to the survey generally believed a Romney-Ryan ticket will help galvanize Republicans, particularly in our neighboring Wisconsin, but differed as to whether it would impact the Illinois vote. 

"Illinois informed voters will respond to a ticket that has a budget plan to get the country back on track," one Republican said. "We need a responsible fiscally conservative approach to government in this state too."

Another GOP member, however, said, "Illinois is stuck with Obama regardless of what the Republicans do."

Read ProPublica's Guide to the Best Reporting on Paul Ryan.

Democrats have blasted Congressman Ryan for his proposed budget plan and Medicare spending. The budget plan looks to lower the national debt by targeting social programs such as Medicare, and also lowers the top tax rate paid by corporations and the wealthy, according to The Washington Post. 

So could Ryan's stance on these issues be a rallying cry for Illinois Democrats in this election? Democrats surveyed said yes, while Republicans said it won't help get them elected.

We asked the Land of Lincoln participants if Illinois Democrats could win in this election if they ran against Ryan's proposals. About 92 percent of Republicans surveyed said they either "strongly" or "somewhat" disagreed that it would help Democrats. Meanwhile, 88 percent of Democrats "strongly" or "somewhat" agreed that it would help their party to run against Ryan's stance on these issues. 

"How far right he is will move him away from Independents," one Democratic respondent said. Another said Ryan's selection will energize senior citizens in particular.

But Republicans in Illinois lauded Ryan as a "bold choice" and a "proven conservative," touting his knowledge of the budget and financial issues facing the country. 

WHO PARTICIPATED

Patch editors throughout the Chicago suburbs enlisted local people involved with politics to take our Land of Lincoln surveys. Go to the links below to see a full roster of those involved. Want to take our next survey? Email associate regional editor Michael Sewall at michael.sewall@patch.com

Russ August 22, 2012 at 05:44 AM
the good bob is back
lou August 22, 2012 at 01:10 PM
russ, u must b in public education, your facts r mostly wrong!
Edward Andrysiak August 22, 2012 at 03:11 PM
Russ...even the IRS disagrees amongst themselves as to the interpertation of some of those multi page rules and you want Romney to release data to the general public to twist every detail? I say if the IRS did not audit his return we should assume he filed correctly and move on.
Russ August 22, 2012 at 03:49 PM
with people like you lou ,they are only wrong when YOU disagree with them.YOU can't handle the truth.
P Arnold August 22, 2012 at 04:19 PM
More links to the Great Depression. And YES, it was WORLDWIDE. http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/depression/about.htm http://history-world.org/great_depression.htm http://elsa.berkeley.edu/~cromer/great_depression.pdf
lou August 22, 2012 at 09:23 PM
russ investigate topics on yer own. dont take any medias opinions. (or yer old professors liberal ideas) your being brain washed
Edward Andrysiak August 23, 2012 at 01:12 AM
Wake up people...Romney earns his money from investments...stocks, dividends and interest and other "soft" income which BY LAW is taxed at 15%. That percent of millions still comes to a hell of a lot of money. Mostly I worry that bitching about his low percent would lead to a change in the tax law which will hurt almost all seniors whose income is primarily from interest and dividends. Shut up or you will get what you wish for...and our seniors will not like or you for bringing it about.
Edward Andrysiak August 23, 2012 at 01:36 AM
Here is why I will vote for Romney and why he will do a great job. For one he does not need the money so he has no personal gain to seek. As for his critics who say he sent jobs overseas and fired folks etc...you know all that apparent bad stuff. Well as ceo of troubled companies he made the decisions necessary to get them up and running or they rolled over. More were sucessfull. Remember his job then was to do just that for his investors and the company employees whose jobs he saved. He wasn't in it to creat jobs here or waste money on payroll when it didn't produce a profit. This guy knows how to cut where needed and how to make a business grow. His job as our president will be to act and make decisions for the contry. That goal has little to do with his past goals. He dam well knows were the waste is and will cut it. He will fix the tax code bucause he understands it's impact on business where the jobs are created. Simply said he is well prepared for the job. He may well be one of the best presidents we elect because he will put this COUNTRY FIRST! That, I believe, is the main reason he is running. I want the kind of President I would ask to run my business in my absense. Romney will run it well. Obama would be out golfing four days a week and glad handing while scheeming for a way to be rehired for another year. If you can't and didn't run a sucessfull business...you can't fix the mess this country is in right now.
Dave W. August 23, 2012 at 02:25 AM
Lou...or lou...are you angry because those 'liberal' professors didn't teach you no right grammar? Yeesh...be right, be wrong, but don't make us all stupid with your prose...
Melother August 23, 2012 at 02:35 AM
WHY I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR MITT ROMNEY: I am so utterly disturbed by the fact that a man who calls himself "religious" and "upstanding" has done a complete 180 on almost all of his OWN views that I believe he can't be trusted in any way, shape or form. Had the Governor Romney who existed in Massachusetts been the one to show up for this election it truly would have been a site to behold! However, he instead to chose to sell out to America's millionaires for a shot at the spotlight. Obama's heath care plan is BASED OFF OF ROMNEY'S. The BOTH intend to cut $700bil from Medicare but it's what each of them is going to do with it that is the REAL key. Romney used to wave his pro-choice flag proudly just like his mother did. Now, his VP is the man who co-sponsored a national bill that would force women to complete pregnancies conceived in incest or rape or face legal punishment. Romney once believed that the funding of a campaign should be transparent to constituents and now he holds fundraisers in the Hampton's and is promised millions of dollars by Sheldon Adelson who would sell his testicles for a Republican president simply to keep his wrinkly butt out of jail. ROMNEY HAS SOLD OUT and become a puppet to the elite. He wants to talk about how he is going to help America all the while his money sits in overseas tax shelters? How American of him! I may not agree with everything President Obama does but at least he hasn't sold his soul to the Koch Brothers.
Logansdad August 23, 2012 at 02:32 PM
The United States is not a business. It is not a company. The position of President is not to turn a profit for the shareholders. As president, you need to look out for all the people not just a portion of the people. I don't know of anyone running for President that was into it for the money. You say Romney knows where the waste is and knows what to cut. I haven't heard anything specific from Romney. All I have heard are general plans on what he may do. Plus his ideas change from week to week. He says he plans to get rid of Obamacare (a plan based on his ideas) but has yet to offer a replacement. You feel Romney will run your business well. Do you want your business run by a guy who will leave when a better offer comes up only to come back to your business when that better offer is over. That is eaxctly what Romney did when he was running Bain. He left to organize the Olympics only to return to Bain when the Olympics were over. So much for having his priorities.
Edward Andrysiak August 23, 2012 at 02:54 PM
Forget your talking points and posts on multiple web sites and sit down and judge the accompolishments and character of each man...and their VP choices. You have to give it to Romney on character. Ryan vs Biden is an indication of management skills. One picks a guy who will help work on the economy and the other picks a bumbler with 28 years of doing nothing. As an aside...if I was asked who I think leaks info to the press that helps Obama, my vote would be Biden. Since I live in Cook County, I can vote that way TWICE! lol
frank August 23, 2012 at 03:07 PM
Watching you idiots keep up this Krap for a week and a half and now I know how goofed up the New Lenox area respondents are. Off the subject and over 575 comments. VOTE VOTE VOTE ======= CHANGE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
June Whitehand August 23, 2012 at 03:16 PM
It has really seemed that the Republican party is giving this election away for some time now with the insulting way they have been treating the average middle class voter. Think they are more interested in setting the stage for 2016.
Dave W. August 23, 2012 at 04:23 PM
Well put, Melother...the president is NOT perfect, but the left, especially the far left, is just as unhappy with him as the right is, just for diametrically opposing reasons...which sort of tells me he is actually very centrist...which is what I really want in a president, or most elected officals. The GOP seems to insist on shooting themselves in the foot...and the arm, and their ear, and their... To me, the Ryan pick only undercuts the only chance Romney had of the middle ground...yes, Ryan energizes the right wing base, but were they ever in danger of NOT voting for Romney? Republicans always come out and vote...(thus the frequent attempts at voter suppresion to keep anyone even looking like a Democrat from coming out)...but doesn't this do more to rally Democrats to come out on election day? Which theoretically hurts the GOP? Voters are always said to lean middle conservative, but looking a little deeper it seems historically that they are more middle left if you can actually get a Democrat off their couch. Also, many demographic trends lean left, so one would think the GOP would be more willing to reach out to more groups that aren't old white Christian males, yet a pick like Romney and Ryan seems bent on cementing that ideology. None of this makes sense...there are many conservative themes that are pragmatic and reasonable and good for all...Romney can't even give details of things that have been around for decades; how can he expect to convince America of them?
TOUGH ON THE INSIDE August 23, 2012 at 05:09 PM
Well said. I totally agree!
McCloud August 23, 2012 at 06:59 PM
Jobless claims rise again, according to Bloomberg. Free healthcare on the house.
russ harrison August 25, 2012 at 01:30 PM
Just a point about the tax returns: In 2009 the IRS offered a blanket amnesty to anyone engaging in tax evasion via overseas financial institutions. Pay the fine, and nothing will happen to you. That was 2009. Got it? Romney has released only ONE, not two, returns. (2011 was an estimated) That single return was for 2010 and was incomplete, in that it did not have the Foreign Banking Activity Report (FBAR) filed, nor has that report yet been filed. Why is that significant? The FBAR traces the banking activities in overseas institutions. IT leads to discovery of whether other accounts exist. If a person took advantage of the 2009 amnesty, but only for the accounts the IRS questioned, then the FBAR would lead to the pother accounts and that means jail if they were NOT disclosed in the 2009 amnesty application. So why didn't the Romney's, being such diligent and expert business people as they claim, fail to file a commonly required tax form for people like them? If they want us to believe they actually do pay their "legally required share", and sincerely believe in not paying any more in taxes than legally required, then why didn't they avoid a hefty fine by filing the legally required FBAR form in 2010? My guess it shows that Romney accepted tax evasion amnesty and has other accounts that the FBAR might lead to the discovery of...so he pays the fine and delays the outcome until immunity is granted. Oct 15th is the deadline for his 2011 returns.Lets see what happens then.
lou August 25, 2012 at 09:09 PM
russ, r u still harping on romney? who cares wat he paid taxes, as long as he didnt do anything illegal? and u shouldnt b talking about the next president like that.if u had the choice, would u pay more? u can if u like, the irs does except more than your fare share. i got the phrase fare share from barry.
TaterSalad August 26, 2012 at 03:43 PM
Can someone please tell me why Oiho (Obama's new spelling of the state) citizens continue to support and vote for Sen. Sherrod Brown-nose and Barack Obama. They have the same ideology and are driving Ohio business's to Indiana and Pennsylvania and other states. Evidently these citizens place the Democratic Party before there families and jobs! Sad..............and true! Thank you Ohio for the jobs! Keep up the good work. I like the paycheck instead of an unemployment check! Ha, ha, ha!
Lucia Schmidtke August 26, 2012 at 04:14 PM
stupid is as stupid does!! grow up and start earning a living!! at least Romney uses most of HIS money to run a campaign!!
steve conaster August 26, 2012 at 05:06 PM
energize both parties? YES. i voted for obama in '08. thought it was time for a black President. he fooled me. i had no idea HE had no idea what America is, or job creation is, or business is, or the economy is, or deficit spending is, or lying is, or socialism is, or honesty is, or humility is, or racism is, or otimism is, or being a leader of the free-world is, or what "pork" is, or speaking intelligently contemporaneously (ie. not from a teleprompter) from the heart is, or how to put a competent administration together, or knows how to take responsibility for his own policies and actions, or ILLEGAL imigration is, or change is. i do know it is obivious he knows what status quo is. status quo is what happens if i vote for him and he gets re-elected.
Dave W. August 26, 2012 at 05:56 PM
Lou...or lou (since you are clearly the the next e.e.cummings), perhaps if you could form ONE coherent sentence with full words and capital letters and such, and not look like a drunk high school kid looking for a party via text on a Saturday night, maybe somebody would take you seriously. I may not agree with TaterSalad (for example) but at least we all understand in what language he is communicating. (You can start by looking up 'homonyms'...)
russ harrison August 26, 2012 at 11:16 PM
Lou> After those Bain documents were recently released, Romney may have a bit of a problem. See, what Bain did was to waive certain management fees and pay their employees/owners/investors as capital gains. They justified that by claiming that the investments were "extremely risky" so they would waive the management fees. Follow? So...when push comes to shove, they engaged in certain tax strategies that at best are "not in accordance with standard accepted accounting practices" according to the IRS. At worse its blatantly illegal. What the benefit is, instead of paying 35% in income taxes for income earned, they pay 15% or less by classifying income as capital gains. Got it? That, Lou, is NOT paying your fair share and IS defrauding the IRS. Not that it matters, it will take a few years to decide whether to prosecute or to allow forgiveness after paying a fine. This is why so many GOP leaders and party members are angry. It splits the loyalty to the party, alienates former supporters, and leaves sheep to follow at the beck and call of the string pullers. So far Romney's only comment regarding this matter was "I was not aware that was going on, and if I need to, I'll pay the corrected amount.. " Just like he paid the fine for failing to file his FBAR (Foreign Banking Activity Report) for 2010. We may never know what he had in those accounts, where it came from, and where it went. But..as long as the sheep get fed, he's the man for the GOP!
P Arnold August 27, 2012 at 03:46 PM
Oh Lord......loo has clones!
frank September 06, 2012 at 04:49 AM
Good to see that the loonies of New Lenox are still at it with their stupid comments. Merry Christmas! <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<,,
BUTCH September 14, 2012 at 08:25 PM
I was watching the TPARTY gathering in Tampa and was moved by the tribute to VET's that was a millisecond long i also am amazed at TWIT'S FOREIGN POLICY MESSAGE the one that will be drawn by the NETANYAHOOS that will put us out front by borrowing more TRILLIONS from Sheldon's partners in Red China for the CHENEY,'S , Blackwater and the 1% the missing FBAR info has to do with his CAYMAN ISLAND CORPORATION aka people there that are using malware to loot the assets including PAYPAL accounts .
BUTCH September 18, 2012 at 09:17 PM
NEW LENOX and national Tparty trolls aka wannabe 1% u all are who Leona Helmsley was talking about when she gave her tax advice"only little people pay taxes" if any of u are 1% u would be at the sex mansion where TWIT explains is election strategy! For me u remind of the overwhelming number of Fla and Illinois village idiots ( Fla is where the medicare robber the Gov Fla and Lyin do their infomercials ) have been thrown under the bus by TWIT,who is only seeking votes from folks who do not get SSA-SSI and whose INCOME is over 200, 000 his version of the middle class this should be a cake walk for TWIT and LYIN, the idiots meanwhile who want the guberment out of their medicare and who lost their shirt on wall street in 07 all they had to do was wait it out for a DEMOCRATIC ADMINISTRATION the idiots were screaming for the government to get out of their Medicare have said nary a word about the Paulson banksters 14 TRILLION gift from his Busheviik Treasury dept and the CEO BANKSTERS the (1%) 100 BILLION IN BONUSES still want OBAMA out of their MEDICARE, The Mayor of NEW LENOX a 1% in the making who is pulling himself up by his bootstraps makes more than the 250,000 middle class TWIT talks about even as he is on disability he is the envy of the TPARTY of NEW LENOX for sure.
John Roberts September 19, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney can not even agree with each other on subjects.Now Mitt Romney has himself and Paul Ryan to go against.....while Obama sits back and tries to let the U.N. small arms treaty pass...Making a world wide gun registration database. PEACE & LIBERTY will only come if Ron Paul was President,From President to President history proves that the preachings have all been the same war for peace,war for Oil in disguise of peace,world policing, and through time we ask ourselves what is going on? what is this world coming to? Why do the leaders we elect seem to go against every belief a human being has? Because we have been electing the same demeanor of people into office,the whole demeanor of the 2 political parties is corruption pays,lobbiest pay,companies pay,oil pays,war pays all to the corporations all of these members of these 2 parties have interests in. Ron pau does not care if you built a company on the platform that it was going to screw as many people as it can,if you collect as much money as you can from people and you spend your money unwisely and you get busted or have to shut down it is your own fault.....Romney said 47% of Americans do not matter to him.100% don't matter to Obama.....Everyone matters to Ron Paul....
BUTCH September 24, 2012 at 09:32 PM
Good post Paul is on target on the Empire and pentagon which goes broke in every Senate Def appropriation bill the best one came from the guy who was building the bridge to nowhere and said it in this way. what I disagree with Paul and TWIT is the freedom to pollute the Gulf OF MEX or Lake Michigan and freedom to have a dozen tax shelters and 3 mansions with car elevators and paying or pay the same rate as the dancing horse trainer BECAUSE U BOTH ARE freedom lovers he is the typical NEO wavin the flag and depriving the returning Vet's their health care and a job, while u both agree that freedom to keep the air poisoned and freedom to forgive your doctor if he operates on the wrong limb or person.in other words what Paul and the Tparty agree on is it is OK to poison clean air water and any reg that is consumer friendly is anti freedom,

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