Illinois Democrats and Republicans both believe the will energize their party's voters in the 2012 presidential election.
That's the general feeling gathered from the Land of Lincoln survey issued by Patch in the Chicago area. Ninety-three Republicans and 89 Democrats were surveyed, though only 14 and nine replied, respectively, by the time of publication.
About 77 percent of Republicans who responded said they believe the Ryan selection will galvanize Illinois Republicans, while 87 percent of Democratic respondents said the choice will bring together their voters against Ryan.
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Republicans who replied to the survey generally believed a Romney-Ryan ticket will help galvanize Republicans, particularly in our neighboring Wisconsin, but differed as to whether it would impact the Illinois vote.
"Illinois informed voters will respond to a ticket that has a budget plan to get the country back on track," one Republican said. "We need a responsible fiscally conservative approach to government in this state too."
Another GOP member, however, said, "Illinois is stuck with Obama regardless of what the Republicans do."
Read ProPublica's Guide to the Best Reporting on Paul Ryan.
Democrats have blasted Congressman Ryan for his proposed budget plan and Medicare spending. The budget plan looks to lower the national debt by targeting social programs such as Medicare, and also lowers the top tax rate paid by corporations and the wealthy, according to The Washington Post.
So could Ryan's stance on these issues be a rallying cry for Illinois Democrats in this election? Democrats surveyed said yes, while Republicans said it won't help get them elected.
We asked the Land of Lincoln participants if Illinois Democrats could win in this election if they ran against Ryan's proposals. About 92 percent of Republicans surveyed said they either "strongly" or "somewhat" disagreed that it would help Democrats. Meanwhile, 88 percent of Democrats "strongly" or "somewhat" agreed that it would help their party to run against Ryan's stance on these issues.
"How far right he is will move him away from Independents," one Democratic respondent said. Another said Ryan's selection will energize senior citizens in particular.
But Republicans in Illinois lauded Ryan as a "bold choice" and a "proven conservative," touting his knowledge of the budget and financial issues facing the country.
WHO PARTICIPATED
Patch editors throughout the Chicago suburbs enlisted local people involved with politics to take our Land of Lincoln surveys. Go to the links below to see a full roster of those involved. Want to take our next survey? Email associate regional editor Michael Sewall at michael.sewall@patch.com.
http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/depression/about.htm http://history-world.org/great_depression.htm http://elsa.berkeley.edu/~cromer/great_depression.pdf
Yeesh...be right, be wrong, but don't make us all stupid with your prose...
I don't know of anyone running for President that was into it for the money. You say Romney knows where the waste is and knows what to cut. I haven't heard anything specific from Romney. All I have heard are general plans on what he may do. Plus his ideas change from week to week. He says he plans to get rid of Obamacare (a plan based on his ideas) but has yet to offer a replacement. You feel Romney will run your business well. Do you want your business run by a guy who will leave when a better offer comes up only to come back to your business when that better offer is over. That is eaxctly what Romney did when he was running Bain. He left to organize the Olympics only to return to Bain when the Olympics were over. So much for having his priorities.
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The GOP seems to insist on shooting themselves in the foot...and the arm, and their ear, and their... To me, the Ryan pick only undercuts the only chance Romney had of the middle ground...yes, Ryan energizes the right wing base, but were they ever in danger of NOT voting for Romney? Republicans always come out and vote...(thus the frequent attempts at voter suppresion to keep anyone even looking like a Democrat from coming out)...but doesn't this do more to rally Democrats to come out on election day? Which theoretically hurts the GOP? Voters are always said to lean middle conservative, but looking a little deeper it seems historically that they are more middle left if you can actually get a Democrat off their couch. Also, many demographic trends lean left, so one would think the GOP would be more willing to reach out to more groups that aren't old white Christian males, yet a pick like Romney and Ryan seems bent on cementing that ideology. None of this makes sense...there are many conservative themes that are pragmatic and reasonable and good for all...Romney can't even give details of things that have been around for decades; how can he expect to convince America of them?
Romney has released only ONE, not two, returns. (2011 was an estimated) That single return was for 2010 and was incomplete, in that it did not have the Foreign Banking Activity Report (FBAR) filed, nor has that report yet been filed. Why is that significant? The FBAR traces the banking activities in overseas institutions. IT leads to discovery of whether other accounts exist. If a person took advantage of the 2009 amnesty, but only for the accounts the IRS questioned, then the FBAR would lead to the pother accounts and that means jail if they were NOT disclosed in the 2009 amnesty application. So why didn't the Romney's, being such diligent and expert business people as they claim, fail to file a commonly required tax form for people like them? If they want us to believe they actually do pay their "legally required share", and sincerely believe in not paying any more in taxes than legally required, then why didn't they avoid a hefty fine by filing the legally required FBAR form in 2010? My guess it shows that Romney accepted tax evasion amnesty and has other accounts that the FBAR might lead to the discovery of...so he pays the fine and delays the outcome until immunity is granted. Oct 15th is the deadline for his 2011 returns.Lets see what happens then.
i do know it is obivious he knows what status quo is. status quo is what happens if i vote for him and he gets re-elected.
After those Bain documents were recently released, Romney may have a bit of a problem. See, what Bain did was to waive certain management fees and pay their employees/owners/investors as capital gains. They justified that by claiming that the investments were "extremely risky" so they would waive the management fees. Follow? So...when push comes to shove, they engaged in certain tax strategies that at best are "not in accordance with standard accepted accounting practices" according to the IRS. At worse its blatantly illegal. What the benefit is, instead of paying 35% in income taxes for income earned, they pay 15% or less by classifying income as capital gains. Got it? That, Lou, is NOT paying your fair share and IS defrauding the IRS. Not that it matters, it will take a few years to decide whether to prosecute or to allow forgiveness after paying a fine. This is why so many GOP leaders and party members are angry. It splits the loyalty to the party, alienates former supporters, and leaves sheep to follow at the beck and call of the string pullers. So far Romney's only comment regarding this matter was "I was not aware that was going on, and if I need to, I'll pay the corrected amount.. " Just like he paid the fine for failing to file his FBAR (Foreign Banking Activity Report) for 2010. We may never know what he had in those accounts, where it came from, and where it went. But..as long as the sheep get fed, he's the man for the GOP!
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u all are who Leona Helmsley was talking about when she gave her tax advice"only little people pay taxes" if any of u are 1% u would be at the sex mansion where TWIT explains is election strategy! For me u remind of the overwhelming number of Fla and Illinois village idiots ( Fla is where the medicare robber the Gov Fla and Lyin do their infomercials ) have been thrown under the bus by TWIT,who is only seeking votes from folks who do not get SSA-SSI and whose INCOME is over 200, 000 his version of the middle class this should be a cake walk for TWIT and LYIN, the idiots meanwhile who want the guberment out of their medicare and who lost their shirt on wall street in 07 all they had to do was wait it out for a DEMOCRATIC ADMINISTRATION the idiots were screaming for the government to get out of their Medicare have said nary a word about the Paulson banksters 14 TRILLION gift from his Busheviik Treasury dept and the CEO BANKSTERS the (1%) 100 BILLION IN BONUSES still want OBAMA out of their MEDICARE, The Mayor of NEW LENOX a 1% in the making who is pulling himself up by his bootstraps makes more than the 250,000 middle class TWIT talks about even as he is on disability he is the envy of the TPARTY of NEW LENOX for sure.
PEACE & LIBERTY will only come if Ron Paul was President,From President to President history proves that the preachings have all been the same war for peace,war for Oil in disguise of peace,world policing, and through time we ask ourselves what is going on? what is this world coming to? Why do the leaders we elect seem to go against every belief a human being has? Because we have been electing the same demeanor of people into office,the whole demeanor of the 2 political parties is corruption pays,lobbiest pay,companies pay,oil pays,war pays all to the corporations all of these members of these 2 parties have interests in. Ron pau does not care if you built a company on the platform that it was going to screw as many people as it can,if you collect as much money as you can from people and you spend your money unwisely and you get busted or have to shut down it is your own fault.....Romney said 47% of Americans do not matter to him.100% don't matter to Obama.....Everyone matters to Ron Paul....
what I disagree with Paul and TWIT is the freedom to pollute the Gulf OF MEX or Lake Michigan and freedom to have a dozen tax shelters and 3 mansions with car elevators and paying or pay the same rate as the dancing horse trainer BECAUSE U BOTH ARE freedom lovers he is the typical NEO wavin the flag and depriving the returning Vet's their health care and a job, while u both agree that freedom to keep the air poisoned and freedom to forgive your doctor if he operates on the wrong limb or person.in other words what Paul and the Tparty agree on is it is OK to poison clean air water and any reg that is consumer friendly is anti freedom,