Tarting Up the Sun-Times: What Do You Think?
It's been a week since the Chicago Sun-Times debuted its new, feistier, sensationalistic tabloid style. How is it going over with you? Take the Patch poll.
What do you think of the new-look, new-attitude Chicago Sun-Times?
South Siders and south suburban residents have long been loyal to the feisty city paper for its City Hall and politics coverage, columnists and pro sports report. For decades, it's been a part of our reading habit.
Last week, new ownership took the beleaguered paper — which has suffered through criminal owners, layoffs, bankruptcy, layoffs, mismanagement, layoffs, outsourcing and layoffs — in a new direction. Media-scene observers say its bid to tart itself up and go "downmarket" as a sensationalist tabloid is taking the paper right into the gutter with "if it bleeds, it leads" headlines and an overdose of celebrity fluff.
Says Sun-Times alum Robert Feder in his Time Out Chicago blog:
The paper of Roger Ebert and five other Pulitzer Prize winners is morphing into a garish, down-market tabloid that seems to be edited for people with teeny-tiny attention spans who prefer headlines to be written IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS.
On the flip side, others see the new owners as saviors. Their new New York-style tabloid look and focus debuted last week.
What do you think? Do you like where the paper is headed? Do you think it's fresh, lively and something work talking about? Or is it so distasteful you wouldn't even let your dog wet on it? Let's talk about this. Vote and post a comment.
anita garrison
7:03 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
Looks more and more like The Enquirer every day! If it wasn't for the patternless crossword I would switch to the Trib.
Serge Storms - I Follow No One
7:12 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
I stop reading the Sun-Times for the following reasons:
1. Price- not worth it based on lack of content
2. Content - less of it
3. I live in New Lenox and not really interested in Chicago local news
Typical big business, they let their staff go to cuts costs and wonder what happen to their quality....then wonder Duh what???? Then make a bunch of stupid changes.
Genvieve LaChappele
10:52 am on Thursday, April 19, 2012
I never started! YAY!
Phyllis Weinberg
7:36 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
I cancelled the daily Sun-Times in December after 30+ years of subscribing. I kept the Southtown Star, Trib, & USA Today. I got tired of reading old news that was also in the Southtown Star. Chose local news over reruns. I kept the Sunday Sun-Times mostly for the coupons. I love newspapers - when they deliver! It's a sad time for newspaper junkies,
OakLawnGuy
8:06 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
The Oak Lawn Patch has more useful news than the Sun Crimes (and Southtown/Star), so why bother with it? They should just give in and sell that rag at the front checkouts, right under The Star and next to Weekly World News. Will they start carrying Ed Anger's columns soon?
minnie ha ha
8:25 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
Swine Times must cater to their intellectually challenged base. Their silent base accepts the swill at the trough of yellow journalism.
Rich Mcdonald
8:38 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
Its funny that something like the Patch would have a poll like this. I usually try to avoid the Patch like the plague but had to comment on this one. The problem with the Patch isn’t the bunch of personalized viewpoints by far too many so called editors/authors, that’s bad enough, but access the Patch site and watch your browser just freeze, yes just sit back for a while and wait for all the crap to load, the page to jump up and down a few times. Forget about trying to even close the browser it has control until countless ads are loaded. Maybe a good long look in the mirror is in order.
Christopher Paicely
10:32 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
Hi Rich,
It's always good to get feedback from anyone who has visited a Patch site. We're constantly trying to improve the experience. If you have a problem with the way we as editors report the news or a problem with how the sites operate, please feel free to send me or one of my colleagues an email. I can be reached at christopher.paicely@patch.com. Thanks for the honesty.
Christopher Paicely
Chicago Heights Patch Editor
Dennis Robaugh
11:28 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
Thanks for the feedback. We don't get many complaints about load times or browser problems. Feel free to e-mail me (dennisr@patch.com) or your local editor and we can check into this for you.
Alan Perkaus
12:53 pm on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
I believe what we have here is that someone is using a commodore 64 on Juno dial-up.
I have never had a problem with loading or the quality of the Patch news system.
Dave W.
4:37 pm on Thursday, April 19, 2012
AS anyone knows from reading my comments, I never stop short of a valid complaint. Aside from some recent posting issues, I've had no problems. CERTAINLY NOTHING like the man described. Might be his computer settings? I'm not technologically savvy, so that is a bad guess at best.
Ooftus Gooftus
8:41 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
Great for my cat's litter box. What the ash borer has accomplished may be compared to what the Times has done to dummy down to their readers. So sad.
EP4Life
8:51 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
I am just hoping this is a transition for the Sun-Times. The worst was the Kim and Kayne cover story. The columnists need to be spread out more and the horoscopes need to go in the back - and yes I read them everyday for fun.
Steve Burke
9:02 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
thanks to Patch, it doesn't matter. I feel sorry for people who don't know about it. Thank you to Ryan, all the other great editors/reporters!
Ryan Fitzpatrick
1:11 pm on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
I think this earns you a Patch t-shirt, Steve.
Pat
9:04 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
Quit the Trib years ago after the fiasco with the pressmen and the treatment other employees. Now the Sun-Times is going the same way. There is not in-depth reporting. I can get the same news in the soundbites on TV. The only thing that keeps me reading it is Steinberg and Roeper. My husband will probably continue to subscribe for the crossword puzzles.
Dennis Robaugh
11:33 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
Yesterday, a gentleman from Orland Park was talking to me and 2 other Patch editors during their "Tour de Patch" event and he mentioned how disappointed he was that Roeper's column was getting pushed further into the back of the paper.
A lot of folks don't realize that the Tribune's pressmen and truck drivers print and distribute both the Tribune and the Sun-Times now.
Karen Kurowski McHugh
1:23 pm on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
Cancelled my Times subscription with the Kim and Kanye cover. If I wanted the Enquirer home delivered, I'd order it. No thank you. I can read Roeper online (as I do) and I get my local news from the Patch and SouthTown (but we are contemplating 86ing the SouthTown)
jennydecki
1:26 pm on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
I'll pass. I'm not into celebrities and I'm not into tabloids. Are they trying to score the US Weekly crowd as new subscribers? It might work. If you spend money on a mag like US Weekly...you'll spend money on darn near anything. LOL
Dave W.
9:47 am on Thursday, April 19, 2012
The Sun-Times used to be the far better paper, better reporteres, journalism, etc. It seems as the price has gone up, the quality has gone down. If they are going to put such garbage out, why even be a newspaper anymore? I hope they can come back from this, but doubt it, as the whole industry is struggling to remain viable.
Tom
10:51 am on Thursday, April 19, 2012
Quit the Sun-Crimes a long time ago and if it wasn't for the comprehensive list of South suburban obits I wouldn't even bother to read it online. LOL (tongue in cheek)
Will Joseph
4:37 pm on Thursday, April 19, 2012
When the Sun-Times plasters that loser Drew Peterson on its cover, it's "tarting up."
When Patch's own Joseph Hosey has an "exclusive" on a Drew Peterson associate getting busted for misdemeanor battery, it's "quality journalism."
I subscribe to the S-T and the Trib and a couple of the suburban papers because the news stories and features are almost always relevant and the writing is almost always good to great. Which means they're worth my money.
I glance at Patch from time to time because it's free.
Dennis Robaugh
11:01 pm on Friday, April 20, 2012
To be fair, the Sun-Times plastered Joe Hosey's Drew Petersen coverage — and his book excerpts — all over its papers when he worked for them, too.
Joel
4:38 pm on Thursday, April 19, 2012
The internet is slowly killing the business of print media.
J. J. Zurek
4:38 pm on Thursday, April 19, 2012
I find it rather amazing that they charge premium dollar for advertising and then they charge 75 cents for a 15-20 page News Paper, with nothing in it but advertising. So if the Shop Keepers pay to advertise and I pay to read the advertisements, can they really market it as a News Papers, when News is the last thing you ever see in the paper. I refuse to call it a NEWS PAPER
Erin Roeper
4:39 pm on Thursday, April 19, 2012
The new "look" of the Sun-Times does not impress me. Like Anita, I immediately felt that it looked even more like a supermarket "rag." I do look forward to reading columnists Steinberg, Washington, Fountain, and Marin -- as well as Roeper and theater critic Weiss. So unfortunate that these quality writers have to appear in such a publication. (But if the day comes when they no longer appear, I'll drop my subscription in a second.) And I feel Patch.com covers the local news much better than the Southtown, which I dropped quite some time ago.
FergLi
4:15 pm on Thursday, April 19, 2012
I don't like the tabloid format. I have been reading the Sun-Times and its' predecessors all my life, despite Trib readers' attitudes about the intellectual inferiority. What has bothered me for quite awhile, and is now almost unbearable, are all the spelling, grammatical and usage mistakes. There must be no proofreading at all. Recent examples: "not bad as long as you don't overdue it" (overdo). An article about one man showed a photo with another man's name (Terrell Davis / David Terrell). Sentences are missing words as well. Newspapers were formerly the way that children learning to read and people learning English could practice and learn. Now the example is lost, but they don't know it and are picking up the unfortunate errors.