"It's not the parents," said McKee" Who is responsible then?

This is what bad decisions lead up to, on everyone's part.

Someone please tell this girlfriend her 15 min of fame are over

Yeah I know the four morons are responsible but the parents should take some blame for raising monsters. The dad is making it sound like he was a model parent and it isn't his fault. If he did not raise his child with morals he is to blame as well. Some of the comments on the previous stories claimed his daughter was living alone in the house.

No everyone hits an age where we all know right from wrong. What if you drove over a kid and killed him cause you purposely blew a stop sign is that your parents fault

I'm sorry but no it's is not the parents fault i was raised with moral and in a loving home and i still made mistakes in the pass some the lead me to be in jail and locked up for weeks, Jax is right, especially now a days there's a point when you come to a certain age and now it seems to be getting younger and younger when kids and teens know right from wrong. These's monsters are the one's to blame plain and simple...I feel awful for everyone but these four who are involved.

Leave the fiancée alone, what a mean thing to say. She's grieving her loss.

What kind of "fiancee" would easily admit he was there for sex with other women???? McKee was not living alone it was the other girl and you can put
everything you have into raising kids and it doesn't always work out that way.

Joliet resident-where did she say he was there to have sex with other women?! Like how you put your own words in there. "Kicking it" doesn't necessarily mean sex, hanging out is more like it.

Yeah I'm sure them two boys weren't thinking they cud get some from from two white girls. Sure look its a shame and a tradegty what happened but lets be honest they weren't there to just hang out

Actually, it could be either scenario. The whole thing is a rotten shame. The mug shots look like the Charles Manson prom court of the new millenium.

James you said it all the four are whack jobs and its a damn shame Illinois got rid of the death penalty cause they all deserve it

People do not turn 18 years old and just decide to start murdering. I know they are responsible for their actions. Children learn by example and how they are treated. This violent behavior and drug abuse did not start two months ago. How many parents of the accused even showed up in court? One. That speaks volumes. It looks like none of them plead not guilty by reason of insanity either.

R u a reporter lala? Bc I c u on every news post on every single patch in this area! If not maybe u should get a better job bc u have way to much time on ur hands

The,parents are not responsible. I know the McKee family and those parents tried the best they knew how to get Bethany on the right track. Was there more they could have done....maybe, but hwo many perfect parents do you know? Some kids struggle with everyday life no matter how loving and supporting there family is.

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"Scholars have identified several factors that predispose youth to risk behaviors. At the individual level, youth who have low self-esteem, who have negative peer groups, and low school engagement or educational aspirations are more likely to engage in risky behaviors.
*******Familial factors include poor parent-child communication, low parental monitoring (e.g., parents are unaware of youth’s whereabouts), and a lack of family support. Not surprisingly, when parents themselves engage in risky behaviors, teens also are more likely to do so. Finally, extra-familial variables also play a role in the risk behaviors of youth. Negative school climate, poor neighborhood quality and low socioeconomic status, and poor (or no) relationships with non-parental adults also are at more risk for negative behaviors."

Maria R. de Guzman, Extension Adolescent Specialist; and Kathy R. Bosch, Extension Family Life Specialist
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How about the guy who's mom is a Joliet police Sargent and from what I've heard she is one if the good cops who cares about her family and community she is a good person and a good mother who's son turned ou to be a stupid idiot that's not her fault he is a grown man just like the other three they are all adults

I doubt these kids suffer from poor parenting they are just idiots who thought they could get away with murder example OJ Simpson drew Peterson Scott Peterson come on I don't need a degree to tell you people can be raised right but still end up doing bad. I can't believe that as a society we have stooped to blaming others for our screw ups what ever happened to accountability manning up we are turning men into sissies unreal we want to blame parents for grown ups being idiots.

I have been following this story...as well as the comments. All I can think is that the parents indeed do impact how a person is raised and later responds to different social situations. However they are not responsible when, if despite doing a decent job while raising them, they later do a despicable act when adults. Obviously Bethany's father did the right thing by reporting what he heard and later gave whatever respect he could to the victims families while in court.

Something tells me these four will get EXACTLY what they have coming to them while rotting away in crappy cell....they made their choices and have the punishment coming to them. I am sure there will be sob stories and attempts at excuses such as drugs...but again those were choices too. What complete and utter idiots these four are.

If all 4 parasites live 50 more years each at $50,000 per year to keep them in prison, do the math...$10 million wasted tax payers money. As long as America remains Civilized in the way that criminals are treated, do not expect to see Crimes like this to go away! Some people just do not deserve to live, PERIOD!

I feel for the victims families and friends but attacking the parents of the GUILTY 4 is not right. So far, no-one knows what kind of parents they are , so its wrong to judge them based on what their ADULT son's and daughter's have done.

I like to think that I raised (and am still raising) my children to be honorable, respectful, kind and caring human beings and help set them on the right path in life ahead. The problem is, when they are not w/in our sight, we have no clue what they are really doing. They will say one thing, but sometimes do other things. Do not blame the parent/s for raising their children wrong, we can only do so much. A lot of times, it's the peers they acquire as friends, whether it be for acceptance, to be in the 'cool' crowd or what, sometimes friends have a huge influence on them. There is no one else to blame then the four adult individuals pictured above. The parents, of both the deceased and the offenders are also the victims. I would be mortified if I received a call regarding my child murdering someone or my child being murdered. All I can say is justice will be served, and it is unfortunate that four young adults chose this path. They have ruined their lives along w/ two innocent victims and all families lives of both sides. Its truly ashame.

Obviously the fiancee had a reason to call every jail after he didn't answer the phone. Did she have the jails on speed dial? Nobody deserves to be murdered, but all six people involved in this mess had issues.

Dawn who are you to sensor anybody your a reporter you forget what free speech means.

Life is Simple, People make it HARD. From little on I told my Children that crap hangs with crap, and sooner or later you begin to smell like crap! There was a reason that these 2 black kids went to 1121 Hickory street in the first place...

Soooo Amanda now What exactly was Your point? And the person that's being smart about another posting on every story. Your riding shot gun. Pointed fingers have opposite members. This is a site of messiness.

P the two killed were friends of the other four they probably all pulled trains on them two girls its a shame that it happened but the two killed were not saints they did not deserve the fate they received but they were no angels I think that's what she is Amanda is saying..And Amanda is saying it nicely that to a black guy white woman is like a drug they want it more and more..

Parents who have no morals or ethics might possibly be responsible for their adult children's behavior but there are many elements that impact their ultimate actions. These four show sociopathic behavior, Only they are responsible.

...Smh what's funny is if all 6 people had no criminal history. Alot of you wouldn't know what to say... Next it would be a racial thing. Oh wait....Oh No!!...What do ya know... Or Maybe it's just that many of you pretend to be fair in your everyday lives. You come online... Do Little a racial bashing...because it lets off some steam. Why don't you go and pick on the living and let the dead retire...have a little Fn Respect...

i think it speaks volumes that only one parent showed up and it happened to be the parent of the suspect that left the scene and possibly alerted the police.

Let me ask you a question ...if you did everything possible for your child or children and they still went down that dark path, even if you try you can't stop them they are 18! Then they get involved with something like this...are you going to sit in the courtroom, watch them look like they don't care about past, present, or future? And then let the media destroy you even more for coming and every single move you made in the courtroom? Or take off work, where your barely making ends meet, and every court case drags on for ever! Asking your boss to have the day off to support your sociopathic mess of a child! I would never want to be wrapped up in this mess as a parent. We can do everything we can as parents, drugs, sex, money, will always have power some cannot say no too.

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I'm a parent as well. and I could never imagine what I would feel if my child. commited such a horrible act but I'm not saying that it could not happen to me it very well could I would be devestated along with the families of these two boys you should never say never and never ever think that your children are not capable of this cause the mental mind can overpower anyone so rethink a lot of things before you pass judgment on anyone that is blaming the parent it could hit your front door we as humans do not know really. Because if we all knew what. Would happen we all would be prepared know wouldn't we god bless all that are in pain

This is so serious...we need to pray for both families, and most of all don't forget to pray your child because you Dont know what your child is doing when they are away from you. Proverbs 22:6 train up a child...

Of course you think it's racial! I feel bad for the parties, but I don't believe it's racial.

@TheTruth, If that comment was directed toward me. Josh Miner, the killer. His ex, who lived with him and been with him for years. Explained that josh did not like blacks and she believed it was based on race. So, I won't argue with you. Google it, and take that up with her...

What game were they playing when cops found them so sad for the two young mens families

Just horrible, I didn't know any of the victims but prayers to there families. May God rest there souls. May the courts take care of these animals.

@special rex, I'm aware he may have been a racist. I've read the story. But one of the females involved actually has a mixed child, and ALL parties were known to have friends of other colors. Information came from their Facebook pages. Check it out! Either way it was a brutal killing, and justice will be served. I just don't believe it was racially motivated is all.

Let me ask you something, what is a friend nowadays? A Person you speak with from time to time? We all have many of those. How many FRIENDS do you PERSONALLY hang out with on any given time off, AND close with? lets just say out of 20. Once you subtract that then, how many are best friends? Now those two numbers are the people that matter most. Everyone else is considered dispensable. That being said you wouldn't rob your best friends but maybe friends of friends. Or distant friends...more likely. And I knew plenty of people who had friends of different nationality and behind their backs, didn't like them or hated them because of the fact... Don't believe me? Just look at some of these race comments that people make ABOUT THE DEAD. These are the same people that claim to be righteous in their work lives. And when they are SAFE at home & log on to the computer its a different story...
Lets just say it wasn't bro and hope this will bring us all closer. Enjoy your night.

This is only my opinion and what i was told my Willian Mckee and seen with my own eye's.......I know William Mckee and from what i was told by him and what i saw with my own eye's Bethany has had regular negetive contact with the shorewood police and alot of problem's with thier famialy, According to William Mckee she ran away from home and was kidnapped and used as sex slave's by gang member's, Because she was a minor all of her infraction's with the law was not on her adult record. In my opinion,Her troubled childhood was not only her fault but that of her parent's who either didn't care or gave up on thier children. While her parent's went camping all summer of 2013 and left the children home all alone only to check on them and buy food, They again return camping! The children were completly unsupervised! and As i was told by William Mckee one of thier children moved out of the home to live with a relevitive to escape the problem's created by bethany Mckee. It does not supprise me that something this bad happend, In my opinion she was a very troubled child and this crime or one as bad was a crime in the making, In my opinion She was a very troubled child and a poor upbringing didn't help at all, That is based on what was told to me by Willian Mckee and from what i have seen with my own eye's. THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION. And they are not guilty untill proven gulty.

Sad. All the way around. Waste of life and youth. The killers callousness and indifference is disgusting. This isn't about race, but disregard for human life.

These young adults don't fear God, don't fear teachers, don't fear parents and don't fear police. Look at their defiant expressions in their booking photos. Lost
souls.

If you couldn't get ahold of your fiancee who normally answers ur calls or calls right back wouldn't you call the hospitals or jails cuz u r worried bout them cuz u haven't hear from them. And it doesn't matter y they went over to the house.....it sure wasn't to be murdered...and no matter how well the parents raised the 4 who did this, the parents r not the ones who did the crime....they r adults and have minds of their own.....they chose to do this not the parents....blame the 4 who killed 2 men who did not deserve to die the way they did.....rip eric and terrance

People are such idiots! Assumptions is all you've got with all of the hear say and whatever has done out in print on the internet and in the news. You would think that by now, genetically, we would have evolved to have brains enough to realize that NO ONE REALLY KNOWS ANYTHING YET! police cant reveal anything of they would blow their case. Real evidence or no real evidence... at this point, we all know NOTHING that is 100% for sure! Why are you picking through and rummaging for scraps of nothing? What a waste of time! All of you accusers are gossip kings and queens who think that all it takes is for someone to say it or print it for it to be true. Did you think the world was going to end last December? I bet you did!

It is not anybody's fault but the ones that committed the crimes. Quit making excuses for people who do wrong. It's not their parents, it's not tv, it's not video games...it's them. They made the decision to go out and commit this heinous crime. I actually think McKee seems like a good parent. He called the cops on his daughter, but is there for her through thick or thin. She deserves to be punished for her crime, but it's his daughter - he can't just stop loving her. Direct your anger at the right people and quit giving people excuses for bad decisions.

These four individuals are symbols of the evil and racial problems that our society is faced with. This heinous and diabolical act just shows that as a society we have failed. Its takes a whole community to raise a child.

That comment, "You're a coward, just like your child," was completely incorrect. He was the only brave one there. He faced all the people who blame him for things that he did not do. He went for his daughter, but no one else's parents showed up, they are the cowards. Their children are monsters. This is a horrible story. All of the typos in the report are terrible. You would think that with how much this is viewed that the reporter would take the time to spell and grammar check with Microsoft Word.

Blue, I have to agree. I can't imagine what all of the parents are going through. No matter what our children do, we love them unconditionally. I think people forget what that means at times. The parents who didn't go were most likely afraid for their lives or for the lives of their younger children. We will never know why they weren't there, but it may not have been because they're cowards. I couldn't even imagine what it took for mr McKee to go, but the love for his daughter is evident.
There are many victims in this horrific ordeal, I hope they can all find some sort of peace one day.