patching...
Welcome back, Patch Blogger!

Elderly Frankfort Square Woman Abducted at Gunpoint

Three men stole the woman's car and attempted to use her ATM card before releasing her in Country Club Hills.

 

A 70-year-old Frankfort Square woman was abducted at gunpoint by three men Monday night, Sun-Times Media reports

Are you a fan of true crime? "Like" the Crime-n-Shame page on Facebook.

The abduction occurred on the 8200 block of Chestnut Drive, near the woman’s home. The men, who she didn't know, called her over to their car, pulled a gun and ordered her into the back seat.

One of the men stole the woman’s car, which has since been recovered. The other two drove around the area for an hour, tried to use her ATM card and eventually released her near a gas station in Country Club Hills.

Will County sheriff’s police are currently searching for the men, who were driving a four-door gray sedan at the time of the incident.

For further details, see the original report from Sun-Times Media.

Get news alerts and Facebook updates from these Lincoln-Way Patch sites:

Related Topics: Frankfort Square Abduction, Will County Sheriff's Police, and Woman Abducted Frankfort Square

Chris

3:54 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

What do these creeps look like? Why is there no descriptions?

Reply
Comment_arrow

Granny Gruntz

7:44 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

*The Frankfort Patch stated "Street" in one article and "Drive" in another.
*The 6:00 pm NBC news stated "Chestnut Court".
*Chestnut Court is in the Hickory Creek sub-division at 84th & St. Francis Road.
*The 6:00 NBC news showed pictures of the townhouses in that particular
sub-division. *I am familiar with that sub-division because I know people who
live there.
*Also the NBC news did show three men on the security camera pix from the convenience store (which might be the one at that mini-mall further east on St. Frances Road. *The camera showed 3-men entering the store in their attempt
to use the elderly lady's ATM card at the ATM located inside the convenience
store.

Nikki Sanders

6:41 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

70 is the new 50
If she had a small pistol in her purse, she would not have been in their car.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Jim Blackman

7:01 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Its nice to know about the incident but a description would help everyone feel safer. Now we dont have a clue what or who to look out for.
I agree with Nikki every law abiding citizen needs to carry a fire arm to defend themselves.

Comment_arrow

CCW

7:10 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Great comment Nikki. It is sure to arouse some liberal comments from those who think the government will keep them safe. I am glad she was unharmed but I agree with you, she should have been armed. After June 9th of this year, alot of us will be and hopefully the criminals will think twice before pulling this kind of crap.

Comment_arrow

JP

8:06 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Both statements are FALSE. When you make statements in absolutes, you are just plain ignorant. My dad died at 70. Lots of people at 70 have health issues, so you cannot universally say that 70 is the new 50. As for having a gun in her purse, really?!? Even if she was like a 50 year old, whatever that means, do you think 3 young men would not try to take her gun and turn it on her?? The article clearly states that they had a gun (probably multiple). You make it sound as if they didn't have a gun. Even if they didn't have a gun, you're still nuts to think that she would have been fine if the she had one. Even if she had a high caliber pistol and practiced with it weekly, one of the THREE MEN would get the gun and blow her away. That's not being liberal, that's being LOGICAL.

Comment_arrow

CCW

8:34 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

DING DING DING! Told you! JP were you there and do you know this woman personally? I see several senior citizens at the gym all the time and I have to admit that they are in far better shape than most of the 20+ somethings who have stuffed their faces with Big-Macs and washed them down with Mountain Dew. I see lots of older women and men on the shooting range doing a fine job so for you to say that most elderly people are medically unfit to protect themselves with a firearm, IT IS YOU WHO ARE SPEAKING IN ABSOLUTES. Futhermore, whether you like it or not, it is every American citizens RIGHT to carry a firearm for self defense. We will have concealed carry soon in Illinois. Should we tell older people, or anyone else for that matter, that if they have any medical problems that they have no Right to self defense?

Comment_arrow

hazelgreen

9:02 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Because they could have never overpowered her right?

Comment_arrow

Karen

9:06 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

I agree. So sad that these losers could prey on our elderly but glad to hear that she was not harmed. Unfortunately in our society today, we need to do more to protect ourselves. I too look forward to the day that these criminals will need to think twice, i along with many others are making sure we are educated and prepared to defend ourselves and our families if need be.

Comment_arrow

Granny Gruntz

5:01 pm on Friday, March 8, 2013

*Do you really think that a gun in her purse would have actually done
any good for the elderly lady? *REALLY? *There were THREE (3) men and ALREADY HAD HER AT GUN POINT! *If she had had a gun in her purse and pulled it out - the lady might NOW BE DEAD! - AND unable to report the kidnapping to the police!*REALLY??-Do you think YOU would have been quick enough to WHIP OUTA GUN AND SHOOT THREE (3) ASSAILANTS?? - BEFORE YOU WERE STONE COLD DEAD IN THE MARKET PLACE?
DUH-H-H-H-!!!

lala

7:19 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Wow! Poor woman. Glad to hear she was not physically harmed. I usually do not agree with the gun issues but in this case, too bad she did not have a 357 and blow their heads off! What cowards!

Reply
Comment_arrow

Granny Gruntz

5:03 pm on Friday, March 8, 2013

*You must be very, very YOUNG and NAIVE!!
*Do you really think that a gun in her purse would have actually done
any good for the elderly lady? *REALLY? *There were THREE (3) men and ALREADY HAD HER AT GUN POINT! *If she had had a gun in her purse and pulled it out - the lady might NOW BE DEAD! - AND unable to report the kidnapping to the police!*REALLY??-Do you think YOU would have been quick enough to WHIP OUTA GUN AND SHOOT THREE (3) ASSAILANTS?? - BEFORE YOU WERE STONE COLD DEAD IN THE MARKET PLACE?
DUH-H-H-H-!!!

David H

8:12 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

The way our government is lately, I bet the men would get a badge for helping a woman across the street. Also, by not putting in a description of the men they are doing the community a disservice.

Reply

Opinion 1

8:38 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

The beginning of the article states that the woman was called over to the car which had the men in it - this is a prime example of not to go near a car that you are not familiar with. It is a shame that this had happened to this woman, who more than likely was trying to be a good Samaritan in helping these men when they called her over to the car. The Township should place an alert out to remind residents of all ages not to approach a car they are not familiar with.

Reply

Eleanor Wiegand

8:46 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Three against one--I am afraid a gun would not have helped her much --especially since they were already pointing their gun at her. One on one, a gun would maybe have helped if she could get to it without him shooting her first. Poor woman! I am glad she is OK. Scarry..

Reply
Comment_arrow

CCW

9:02 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Eleanor, you are right, a gun doesn't help in every situation nor does anything else. She is probably a very kind and trusting soul and was taken advantage of. Situational awareness is the key to avoiding many problems.

Comment_arrow

TB

10:47 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

When someone is asking for a description, it usually means they want to know what the suspects look like. This crime taking place down the street from my home, I personally would like to know what I need to be aware of, When you say black/white/purple it offends me. Journalism has a obligation to the community for which it writes and informs.. What I know now,, that I did not this morning was 3 black males pulled into a driveway in a gray/silver sedan. Kidnapped a woman and robbed her at gunpoint. My point being is now I can alert my kids, tell my neighbors and if we see any one matching that description to call the police. It's how a community works. It's not about being liberal or conservative, but about doing what is right.

Tell The Truth

9:35 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

The news doesn't tell you that it was three black males. I got the email from Frankfort Police beacause i'm on there email account for things that happen in this area.

Reply
Comment_arrow

CCW

11:20 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

The news NEVER tells you it was black males. That would be racist. I bet alot of you don't know about 300 people of color were on their way to a flash mob/ smash and grab at Chicago Ridge mall this weekend. Law enforcement got word of it and met them as they were getting off buses at the mall. The Lamestream media never said a word. If anyone would like the link, just ask and I will post it.

Comment_arrow

Eleanor Wiegand

2:58 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

so who cares if it was three black males or 3 purple males or 3 white males? They were males--color didn 't make them do this.

Comment_arrow

Granny Gruntz

5:30 pm on Friday, March 8, 2013

*The ensuing reports did give a "description" of the "three males". *ALSO - the follow-up news reports showed actual pictures from a surveillance camera of ALL THREE (3) MEN. *Apparently you did not see the continuation of the news reports.

KMR

9:38 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

So I guess she would have had to approach the car with her gun drawn?? Do you think they would have waited while she retrieved it from her purse? Or do you all think we should just start strapping them on our waist with a holster?

Reply
Comment_arrow

CCW

11:16 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

NAH...shoulder holster is way better. You should try it sometime.

Comment_arrow

Granny Gruntz

5:33 pm on Friday, March 8, 2013

*"A holster at your waist" - ONLY IF YOU WERE "QUICK DRAW McGRAW!!! *OR Clint Eastwood?

Comment_arrow

Granny Gruntz

5:57 pm on Friday, March 8, 2013

*Waist holster OR shoulder holster - do you REALLY think you would be quicker WHEN A GUN WAS ALREADY POINTING AT YOU!!!??? *Only if you are "QUICK DRAW McGRAW!! OR whathisface in "Have Gun Will Travel" OR maybe Wyatt Earp? YOU are definitely blowing smoke!!!

Formereastside

9:53 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

No description of the suspects? Why?

Reply

KATHY MAKA-WILLIAMS

10:16 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

I would not have complied. I would run or walk away. Drag me into your car or shoot me, but, gun pointed at me of not, I would not get into the car. I taught my children the same. I asked them what they would do in that situation and then taught them to run. Better to be shot dead in the street (not likely) than to comply and have them in control and taking me where they would do worse and then still shoot me dead anyway. She was fortunate that they allowed her to live which means she can identify the perpetrators.

Reply

H Lady

10:32 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

The article says Chestnut drive which is in Frankfort but the headline says Frankfort Square. Does anyone know if this happen in Frankfort Chestnut Dr. or Frankfort Square Chestnut Ct.???

Reply
Comment_arrow

Granny Gruntz

7:42 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

*The Frankfort Patch stated "Street" in one article and "Drive" in another.
*The 6:00 pm NBC news stated "Chestnut Court".
*Chestnut Court is in the Hickory Creek sub-division at 84th & St. Francis Road.
*The 6:00 NBC news showed pictures of the townhouses in that particular
sub-division. *I am familiar with that sub-division because I know people who
live there.
*Also the NBC news did show three men on the security camera pix from the convenience store (which might be the one at that mini-mall further east on St. Frances Road. *The camera showed 3-men entering the store in their attempt
to use the elderly lady's ATM card at the ATM located inside the convenience
store.

S.Pike

11:23 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

I believe Chestnut is close to St Francis and 84th Ave which is Frankfort Twp.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Granny Gruntz

7:43 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

*The Frankfort Patch stated "Street" in one article and "Drive" in another.
*The 6:00 pm NBC news stated "Chestnut Court".
*Chestnut Court is in the Hickory Creek sub-division at 84th & St. Francis Road.
*The 6:00 NBC news showed pictures of the townhouses in that particular
sub-division. *I am familiar with that sub-division because I know people who
live there.
*Also the NBC news did show three men on the security camera pix from the convenience store (which might be the one at that mini-mall further east on St. Frances Road. *The camera showed 3-men entering the store in their attempt
to use the elderly lady's ATM card at the ATM located inside the convenience
store.

H Lady

11:46 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Thanks S. Pike that would then be Chestnut Ct. in Frankfort Square not Chesnut Drive which is in Frankfort.

Reply

Jim Blackman

1:14 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

I think we should put a sign in front of "JP"s house that says 'I dont own a fire arm please dont rob me. I leave it up to the police to protect me'.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Karen

4:22 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Too funny Jim Blackman! I agree. I will not be telling anyone i am carrying, but if i am an intended target of a crime in the future, watch out, i will be armed!

Charles Reasoner

2:25 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Interesting how the NRA gun nut wacko tparty people claim that this elderly lady needed to be packing a weapon.

So how would she pull a gun out her purse after a gun was pointed at her and there were three men there?

How did that gun that Allan Kustok bought for his wife for an anniversary present work out?
http://orlandpark.patch.com/articles/alleged-kustok-murder-weapon-powerful-enough-to-bring-down-a-bear

Reply
Comment_arrow

Jim Blackman

4:51 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

She could have acted like she was getting her debit card from her purse and shot through the purse at one of the guys. This has nothing to do with the tea party, the next comment from you will be this was George Bushs fault. Be carful who you call a wacko, our constitution worked fine for 200 years until the wacko Libs started taking it apart. When the dollar collapses and people riot in the streets lets see who the wackos are

Comment_arrow

Nikki Sanders

7:38 am on Saturday, March 9, 2013

Wish your name described your thought process.
They made her go in her purse for her ATM Card.
You don't "pull out the gun" - you fire a shot thru the purse.
Bad guys leave quickly - too much noise & attention.

Julio

3:53 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

The news said the rooks tried to use the credit card at a Walmart, so they have good tape.

I'm pretty fast at drawing and firing my weapon, and I wouldn't have tried to out-draw someone who has their weapon unholstered and leveled at me.

A gun here wouldn't have helped- it would have been a liability. It's much easier when you are in a cushy armchair.

Reply

Chris

4:36 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Hey Charles what would you have done in that case blown your whistle.
The only party that's wacko is the Democract party these days. I love how you liberals call the us tea party/NRA people wacko. Wake up have you seen the state of our country lately is sucks because of liberal policies that are in place.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Jim Blackman

4:56 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

The Libs advise would be for her to soil herself in defense too.

Chris

4:58 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Jim you are 100% right on

Reply

RP

6:42 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

It's sad that we have to keep moving further and further to get away from them and they just keep coming and ruining our nice neighborhoods. Thanks Obama for making your people even less motivated then ever to get jobs by giving them free handouts. Now they feel like they are invincible and if they need money they are just gonna steal it from working white people, awesome.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Jim Blackman

7:03 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Get used to it. Where do you think your taxes go. The makers money goes to the takers. It is not only black people but there are plenty of white and hispanic on the dole. This is less of a race issue than a legal way to steal our money. If anything our presidents policys have devistated the black population.

Jim Blackman

7:06 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

I would like to offer to this lady a free firearms class. A friend of mine in Frankfort Tuck Marshall does firearms classes. If she contacts him I will pay for it. He has told me most of his clients lately are of retirement age. His company is JC Marshall, someone please let her know.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Marg

7:52 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Thanks for the info, Jim. I'd been considering taking a class for the last few years, but this incident sealed the deal. We'd all like to think ignorance is bliss, but we need to get real on what's really going on out there. We all make choices and my choice is not to be a victim if I can possibly help it.

Just Saying

7:35 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Nikki ...Are little birds still speaking to you?

Reply
Comment_arrow

Nikki Sanders

7:43 am on Saturday, March 9, 2013

Just sayin' "don't call me elderly"

sweet heart

7:55 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

That so sad I,just heard about it, How about pepper spray ? She can carry that nail them in the eye:"s. I, leave the cell phone on all the time just in case got call 911
for emergency, Glad she safe, I,hope she not going to return home. That is scarey, Now day:s dot wattch all around you where ever you go.

Reply

J.C.

8:10 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

If this woman had a gun it would have been far worse. 3 men against 1 woman; they would have still kidnapped her and her gun would be in the hands of criminals free to kill more innocents. Walking up to a car of strangers...at night!? Come on! Kids even know not to do that! I feel sorry that this happened but she made an absolutely horrible decision. Agree with Kathy Williams, ignore and run away. That decision wouldn't make me stupid for not having a gun in that situation. It would make me smart for thinking instead.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Jim Blackman

9:05 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

If she shot one of them and they still got the best of her, maybe the next time some idiot thinks they can kidnap someone maybe they will think twice. Or maybe they would have thrown her out of the car if she had killed one of these YOUTHS. I am glad she didnt get hurt but I wish she killed one of the 3 maggots to serve as an example. The gun laws only protect idiots and criminals.

Kon Man

8:39 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

I find it funny that all the crime happening around this area as of late is caused by young black men. I have a solution that most people won't like.

I'll leave that alone for now, and get to these moron Liberals making fun of people who think having a gun wouldn't have helped this lady out.

I have a feeling had she been packing, she could have gotten the gun in position and ready when walking over...not necessarily flashing it, but at least being prepped.

It's sad to say but everytime I answer my door, I've got my gun in my hand behind my back. In today's world you need to protect yourself. Police response takes awhile. Why leave it up to other people to protect you? Grow some and do it yourself.

I cannot wait for Illinois to finally pass a law that will enable me to protect myself in public as well as my fellow citizens.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Jim Blackman

9:07 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

What if she used the advise from Homeland Security? Do you think spraying windex at them would have worked? Or how about some lefty scissors?

MJS

10:07 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Did they say which nearby restaurant she was at and is there any surveillance video from there. Were these slugs in the restaurant watching her?

Reply

Toni ighodalo

10:16 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Honestly what elderly white person walks to a car with blacks in it. Come on so called superiors, seriously.

Reply

sweet heart

9:33 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013

I,wonder if they were in the resturant with her or was just watching her some where.
If I,had a gun I, shoot one of them. Then I,blow out the tier"s on the car so they cant move. I,make sure no one else was around before i, blew him away.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Granny Gruntz

5:50 pm on Friday, March 8, 2013

*A most NAIVE comment! THREE YOUNG MEN AGAINST ONE ELDERLY
WOMAN? *Betcha if YOU, sweet heart, had been the ONE with THREE MEN -
young or old - POINTING A GUN AT YOU!??? - *REALLY??? *Have you EVER
been in a THREATENING SITUATION? *Easy to say - as a "Monday morning quarterback!!!

chase693

9:46 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013

If she was followed from the restaurant, which restaurant was it?

Reply

Chris

9:51 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013

I'll second that sweet heart

Reply

J.C.

10:23 am on Thursday, March 7, 2013

Surprising how a few people take the shoot first ask questions later approach. That's just a heinous a crime. What are we reliving the wild west here? Shocking, absolutely shocking.

Reply

Chris

12:04 pm on Thursday, March 7, 2013

Trust me JC we will be reliving the wild west if we dont turn this country around. When the dollar collapes because of the policies in place with this goverment , you will have these low life roiting in the street's you'll wish you had a gun.

Reply

sweet heart

9:47 am on Saturday, March 9, 2013

No. I, havent been in that kind of situation Mr JIM, Have you??. I, would most likeley get a gun a blow these slug"s away. You never know in this society. How about chicago they are blowing each other away. That wrong.

Reply

Ben Ghazi

6:47 pm on Saturday, March 9, 2013

She was looking for jungle love. You never go back.

Reply

sweet heart

7:55 pm on Saturday, March 9, 2013

What a jerk to say that about some one like that Ben. why you on here to cause trouble,

Reply

Candace J.

8:40 pm on Saturday, March 9, 2013

It may sound crass, but he may be right. I work in a nursing home and we have male orderlies to help us. Many of these guys are big, black and strong- it's back-breaking lifting people all day.

About 2-3 times a wek we have a situation where a female patient tries to slip an orderly a little kitty. I guess they figure- what the hell- I'm old might as well have fun. Some of the stuff they try is hilarious. We got one old jewish broad that is non-stop horny.

Anyway- old people like sex, too. Big & strong preferred.

Reply

Wendy 72 Mustang

10:07 am on Sunday, March 10, 2013

We need to face the fact that 70 isn't that old anymore. They used to go out for early-bird specials, but they are staying up later and stepping-out more.

My husband helps an elderly lady- 73 across the street mowing the lawn and although my hubby is white, she tries to grab his crotch and rear. She's pretty agressive. my hubby thinks it's funny.

I don't know why this lady was up so late and approaching cars w/ 3 big young guys in it, but it happens, I guess.

stay safe!

Reply

Leave a comment